Farmhand bale accumulator

Farmhand bale accumulator DEFAULT



Central Kansas
I suspect accumulators are like any other piece of equipmentthere is loyalty with ownership. Having said thatmy cousins and I operate together 5 small square balers all with Farmhand accumulators. Collectively, we bale in the neighborhood of 50, bales per year. We don't seem to have many problems with them so they are not 'marginal' for us anyhow.

Hoelschers are made 30 miles from me, he is my cousins' neighbor so we have some first-hand experience with that product. Hoelschers flip the bales on edge and if not a center line baler, the cut side is down. 10 bales in a pad compared to 8 bales with strings up on a Farmhand. Can load about the same number on a trailer even though more bales per layer with the Hoelscher, the height is limiting on most trailers and an extra layer is possible with the 14" aspect of the bale. Farmhands require a pump to run the mechanism and this is generally baler mounted and either belt or flywheel driven. Hoelschers use tractor hydraulics.

Loading semis and forming ridge rows by hand, we have experienced more difficulty with hoelscher pads wanted to tip off the truck when you build the side row. They tend to be just a little more 'tippy' when they are on edge, but that might not be a factor in your operation.

Both Farmhand and Hoelscher accumulators followed the old drag around type (new versions still made) and essentially were designed to work with balers of a certain erathose lower capacity balers like the JD , NH 's, maybe 's, etc. As the capacity of small square balers has increased, the NH BC , the centerline Hesstons/Agco/MF's and event the new version of JD 's have 90+ strokes per minute. In our modern times, windrowers cut larger swaths than 20 years ago, and often these windrows are merged or raked together. The upshot isyou get through put of bales with more modern machines and heavier windrows that can easily limit the action of these older versions of accumulators. Older hoelschers would not cycle back fast enough to get the next bale in line and catch one. There have been retrofit kits for that. Ditto for farmhands and the downside to them is there are hardly any parts anymore. The farmhand can clear bales off the deck faster as the bed does not tip and it is cleared with a drag off chain. Hoelschers are much higher and the bed tips then has to come back down. Heavy hay and higher production balers can cause problems with either one. Farmhands are history, I suspect Mr. Hoelscher is making adjustments to attempt to match his machine with the balers now available. Koyker has a new onebale caddythat addresses these very problems. It has an accelerator that slings the bale off the chute and onto the tablewhich tips to dump. I have not seen one in operation but they appear to be the latest design and apparently have improved on the other accumulators. Kuhn has a mechanical accumulator which uses baler plunger power to lift bales to a position where they fill the slots prior to dumping mechanically. Users have high praise for this system.

Sothey all work and when you learn the peculiarities of a particular make, you can have success with that unit. Farmhand is pretty much out of the picture so that would be one to stay away from unless you have spares for parts. They work for us, but have a pretty fair bone pile to work from when necessary. Good luck on whichever system you end up with.
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Item Description (Last Updated: Apr 1, )

Farmhand FD Bale Accumulator, 1 Auxiliary Hydraulics, X Rear Tires, Clevis Hitch, 9' Length, 83" Width, Collects Small Square Bales From Baler In A 8 Bale Group If Flat Or 10 Bales On Edge, 9’ Long X 83” Wide, Was Used With Tractor Hydraulics - Also Includes Hydraulic Pump That Drives Off Of Baler Flywheel, SN:

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This Item was not Functionally Tested and no guarantees on condition or operability are made by BigIron. It is the bidder’s responsibility to inspect the item, prior to bidding, and make their own assessment as to the item’s condition and suitability for use. Everything is Sold 'As Is, Where Is.’ BigIron is not responsible for any statements about the item made by the Seller.

Location

Location
Iowa
Loading Dock
No
Loading Assistance
Yes - Please Call At Least 24 Hours In Advance.
Loading Charge
0
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Central Kansas
I suspect accumulators are like any other piece of equipment....there is loyalty with ownership. Having said that...my cousins and I operate together 5 small square balers all with Farmhand accumulators. Collectively, we bale in the neighborhood of 50,000 bales per year. We don't seem to have many problems with them so they are not 'marginal' for us anyhow.

Hoelschers are made 30 miles from me, he is my cousins' neighbor so we have some first-hand experience with that product. Hoelschers flip the bales on edge and if not a center line baler, the cut side is down. 10 bales in a pad compared to 8 bales with strings up on a Farmhand. Can load about the same number on a trailer even though more bales per layer with the Hoelscher, the height is limiting on most trailers and an extra layer is possible with the 14" aspect of the bale. Farmhands require a pump to run the mechanism and this is generally baler mounted and either belt or flywheel driven. Hoelschers use tractor hydraulics.

Loading semis and forming ridge rows by hand, we have experienced more difficulty with hoelscher pads wanted to tip off the truck when you build the side row. They tend to be just a little more 'tippy' when they are on edge, but that might not be a factor in your operation.

Both Farmhand and Hoelscher accumulators followed the old drag around type (new versions still made) and essentially were designed to work with balers of a certain era....those lower capacity balers like the JD 224, NH 276's, maybe 315's, etc. As the capacity of small square balers has increased, the NH BC 5070, the centerline Hesstons/Agco/MF's and event the new version of JD 348's have 90+ strokes per minute. In our modern times, windrowers cut larger swaths than 20 years ago, and often these windrows are merged or raked together. The upshot is...you get through put of bales with more modern machines and heavier windrows that can easily limit the action of these older versions of accumulators. Older hoelschers would not cycle back fast enough to get the next bale in line and catch one. There have been retrofit kits for that. Ditto for farmhands and the downside to them is there are hardly any parts anymore. The farmhand can clear bales off the deck faster as the bed does not tip and it is cleared with a drag off chain. Hoelschers are much higher and the bed tips then has to come back down. Heavy hay and higher production balers can cause problems with either one. Farmhands are history, I suspect Mr. Hoelscher is making adjustments to attempt to match his machine with the balers now available. Koyker has a new one...bale caddy...that addresses these very problems. It has an accelerator that slings the bale off the chute and onto the table...which tips to dump. I have not seen one in operation but they appear to be the latest design and apparently have improved on the other accumulators. Kuhn has a mechanical accumulator which uses baler plunger power to lift bales to a position where they fill the slots prior to dumping mechanically. Users have high praise for this system.

So...they all work and when you learn the peculiarities of a particular make, you can have success with that unit. Farmhand is pretty much out of the picture so that would be one to stay away from unless you have spares for parts. They work for us, but have a pretty fair bone pile to work from when necessary. Good luck on whichever system you end up with.
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Item Description (Last Updated: Apr 1, 2020)

Farmhand F100D Bale Accumulator, 1 Auxiliary Hydraulics, 16.5 X 6.50-8 Rear Tires, Clevis Hitch, 9' Length, 83" Width, Collects Small Square Bales From Baler In A 8 Bale Group If Flat Or 10 Bales On Edge, 9’ Long X 83” Wide, Was Used With Tractor Hydraulics - Also Includes Hydraulic Pump That Drives Off Of Baler Flywheel, SN: 9098

Disclaimer

This Item was not Functionally Tested and no guarantees on condition or operability are made by BigIron. It is the bidder’s responsibility to inspect the item, prior to bidding, and make their own assessment as to the item’s condition and suitability for use. Everything is Sold 'As Is, Where Is.’ BigIron is not responsible for any statements about the item made by the Seller.

Location

Location
Iowa
Loading Dock
No
Loading Assistance
Yes - Please Call At Least 24 Hours In Advance.
Loading Charge
0
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