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Holosun 507C MRDS: Does It Beat the Trijicon RMR?

The Holosun 507C is an RMR red-dot sight with a very similar footprint to the popular Trijicon RMR. And it has features that set it apart from the Trijicon.


It wouldn’t be controversial to say the Trijicon RMR is arguably the most popular pistol-mounted red-dot sight in the world. As such, there are a boatload of pistols out there specifically milled for Trijicon’s proprietary RMR footprint, so it should come as no surprise that options from other manufacturers sporting this footprint would eventually come to the market. Currently, the Holosun 507C is the leader of the RMR-footprint pack, right behind Trijicon.


This is no simple airsoft clone of an RMR. The 507C has extra features that aren’t available on the Trijicon. The 507C has a solar panel on top. This isn’t just for use in case the CR2032 battery fails; it’s also used to read light levels when the optic is on auto-adjust mode — though the battery life is 100,000 hours on setting #6, so it probably won’t fail anytime soon.

The 507C also has a shake-awake function with on-board memory so it remembers its last brightness setting. What really makes the 507C stand out are its multiple reticle options:
– 2 MOA dot
– 32 MOA circle
– 2 MOA dot inside 32 MOA circle


The Holosun 507C produces all the reticles using the same LED emitter, so there’s no loss of zero when switching between them. This is different than older designs that ran multiple reticles, but would shift zero. Holosun started out as a laser diode and LED emitter company before delving into their own optics, so they custom-designed the emitter specifically for the 507C, optimizing it for excellent battery life.


Though any company can throw some electronics into a housing, what sets the 507C apart is that testing has shown it to be very durable — we have staff members using them on home defense guns. Several independent tests and reviews have come to the same conclusion, making Holosun pop out of the if it’s Chinese, it’s crap mold.


The 32 MOA circle, strongly reminiscent of an EOTech reticle, is advantageous for people who have trouble picking up a red-dot. The reticle itself is very crisp, likely due to Holosun’s custom emitter.

While the Holosun 507C shown on this page is a standard model, other options are available including a green reticle version and a lighter titanium-bodied version.

The best part? The price. The 507C should be in the $300 street price range.


Straight out of the box, the tiny buttons (relative to the Trijicon RMR) take more concentration to use. Also, the auto-adjust option was a step too dim with the included battery from the factory. We fixed that issue by replacing the stock battery with a Japanese CR2032. While the battery life is excellent, you still have to remove the optic from the mount in order to swap the battery, necessitating re-zeroing.

Holosun 507C Specs

URL: holosun.com
DIMENSIONS: 1.8 by 1.2 by 1.6 inches
Weight: 2.65 ounces
STATED BATTERY LIFE: 100,000 hours on setting #6
BRIGHTNESS settings: 10 daylight and 2 night vision
MSRP: $353

Also check out Aimpoint's T-1 Red-Dot Sight

More on Red Dot Sights:

  • The Holosun 507c made the cut for our Red Dot Sighs buyers guide, check it out.
  • The Past, Present, and Future of the Reflex Sight, read more.

Sours: https://www.recoilweb.com/hands-on-holosun-507c-mrds-153225.html

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Answered by Len113US, member, from CO, United States, on July 21, 2020

No. It is a Shield RMSc footprint

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Answered by 11BGrunt, member, from TX, United States, on July 11, 2020

No based off the Shield RMS & Romeo Zero, so it fits the profile of the single stack subcompact pistol cuts

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Answered by Sarge, member, from FL, United States, on June 17, 2020

Shares the footprint from a Shield rmsc micro sight or romeo zero.

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Answered by Mike, member, from CA, United States, on June 13, 2020

This is the same footprint as 507K. They both mount on RMSc pattern mounts, not RMR.

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Answered by Mr. DouglasQuaid, member, from MI, United States, on May 08, 2020

It mounts to a shield rms/rmsc footprint. Egw makes adapter plates that work with the 407k/507k

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Answered by lenny113us, guest, from CO, United States, on May 03, 2020

No. It is a Shield/J point footprint, not a Trijicon RMR. The 507 in the model number refers to the circle dot selectable reticle. The "C" means RMR footprint. the "K" means sub-compact. Narrower base to mate with single stack slides. Shield Sights/J Point footprint.

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Dynamite Shikoku's Review of Holosun HE507C 2 MOA Dot & 32 MOA Circle Reflex Red Dot Sight

So happy to have found this red dot while googling for the cheapest Trijicon RMR RM04 I could find. Wasn't willing to pay more than $350 since that's what a friend paid for, here on OpticsPlanet. Not sure when he got it but prolly a few years ago.

The features on this red dot alone, my personal opinion FOR THE PRICE, out-weigh the features on the Trijicon RMR RM04. But then again, both have advantages against each other when it comes to their features as their features are not similar; you may consider a feature an advantage/disadvantage, and vice versa, one over the other. The Trijicon RM04 features a fiber optic and Tritium illumination whilst the Holosun 507C features ADJUSTABLE battery and solar illumination WITH THE ADDITION of changing either circle or dot AND illumination adjustment.

Oh, did I mention the Holosun 507C has 10k hrs of battery life and auto's on when the sight notices movement because it does, and it works. The down side is that the sensor that noticed the movement is kiond of sensitive, so if you have it on your person or your carrying, it will be on. But, if it's in safe, sitting right next to you, under your pillow, in your glove box, on your gun stand/rack, it will remain off until it senses it has been moved.

With each red dot having different features and none of which feature any similarity in terms of features other than the Trijicon RMR mounting footprint you really cant go wrong either either one unless you are relying/wanting a certain feature; kinda like when you go to an event/hall and you have to choose appetizer then either fish/chicken/beef as the main coarse and in the end everyone has the same dessert.

The big advantage OVERALL ADAVANTAGE I can see from the Holosun over the Trijicon is the price and the MOA. The Holosun 507c is advertised as 1MOA and the Trijicon RM04 is 7MOA. So right off the bat, the Holosun has the advantage of price and MOA.

Since the Holosun 507C has the same Trijicon RMR mounting footprint, and if you just so happen to have a slide or upper that is cut for Trijicon RMR's, then the Holosun 507C fits right on there, no gaps, hella flush.

SO if anything it's up to you on what you want on features. Happy shooting and fight for your gun rights!!!!

  • illumination without batteries
  • Reticle choices
  • 1MOA dot
  • Auto adjust for light conditions
  • Battery powered
  • Solar Illuminated
  • Trijicon mounting footprint
  • not a Trijicon RMR
  • Trijicon RMR's look cooler
Best Used for:
  • CQB
  • Trijicon RMR Mounting Foot Print
  • RMR/Reflex siight mount
  • Pistonls and SBR's, maybe Shotguns
Would Recommend: Yes

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Pistol Optics for your Polymer80 Build

Contribution from Fast Heinz

As the subject comes up regularly, I want to collect what I've found in my searching in one place as a reference for others looking at adding an optic to their pistol. If there's something I leave out or am mistaken on, please correct me. I apologize in advance for length. Cuts are common on aftermarket slides, if you've got a cut slide please skip the section on mounting options Mounting options Mounting options and model fitment seem to be the most common question, so I'll start there. There are 4 common ways to mount an optic:

1. A footprint specific slide cut

2. A modular slide cut

3. A dovetail or back plate mounting plate

4. A frame/rail mount

Both 3 and 4 have serious drawbacks: holster fitment, the loss of the rear sight, and extreme mounting height to name a few. So, I'll not focus much on them. Options 1 and 2 are much more common with some give and take for each. A footprint specific cut mounts the lowest and has the fewest points of failure, but limits you to optics that fit that footprint.

A modular cut system (Glock MOS, Agency Arms) will let you mount just about anything using adapter plates, but that's one more set of screws, and a plate to break or walk loose, along with mounting the optic higher.

"What Optics fit my Cut?"

Footprints/Mounting Standards on Red Dot Sights

RMR-In case you aren't familiar, it stands for Ruggedized Miniature Reflex

RMR footprint cuts are the most common for aftermarket P80/Glocks, optics that fit this footprint are:

  • Trijicon RMR and SRO series optics

  • Holosun 407c/507c and 508t series optics

  • Swampfox Optics Kingslayer, Liberty, And Justice

  • Riton Optics X3 Tactix PRD

  • NcStar Flipdot Pro


  • Various models (see link above)

  • Vortex Venom and Viper

  • Burris Fastfire 2 and 3


  • Various C-More optics

  • Vortex Razor

  • Sig Romeo3 1x25

Shield RMS

Shield RMS series

Shield SMS

Leupold Delta Point Pro

Holosun 407k/507k with modification (see link)

Modular optics systems

MOS systems require that you mount an adapter plate into the cut, and then mount the optic to the adapter plate. This allows a wide variety of optics, though you may need taller sights as backups than you would with a footprint specific cut. One big benefit of Modular cuts is that they allow the use of enclosed optics such as the Holosun 509t and the Aimpoint Acro.

Notes on Selection and Specifications

What optic you choose depends largely on budget and intended use, the "you get what you pay for" rule generally applies. All optics should be mounted with some form of locktite to keep the screws in place, and torqued to manufacturer specifics. On Glock slides some cuts, specifically RMR, may allow the right side screw to interfere with the extractor plunger. On footprint specific and modular mount systems, taller sights will be needed to serve as back up sights on most optics.

Battery life

Battery life can be an unneccesary hang up, as batteries are generally inexpensive and most optics will get you at least a month of use. Generally, 10k hrs will get you about a year of constant use at a medium setting. Common optics like the RMRs and Holosuns achieve well above that number, and it's generally advised to change the battery once a year (your birthday is a good marker) The Swampfox Kingslayer, for example, gets significantly less than 10k Hrs, as does the Aimpoint ACRO, and it is advisable to change batteries once a month.

Auto Off Feature

If the optic you are looking at has auto-off, but no auto on/ shake awake (Riton PRD, Swampfox Kingslayer), this may not be ideal for a Duty/defensive optic, as you would have to keep turning it back on throughout the day.

Dot Size

Dot size is measured in MOA, or roughly x inches at 100yds. A bigger dot will be easier to find on presentation, but will cover more of your target.

Automatic or Manual Brightness adjustment

Automatic dot brightness is convenient, but may not adjust properly under mixed lighting (you standing in a dark area while your target is in bright light, for instance)

Dot Color

Red is the most common, green may aid with dot issues resulting from an astigmatism.


Another stumbling block, as nobody wants their expensive piece to break on them. The level of durability you need and can afford depends on your preference and intended use. A range hammer or a "try it out" red dot probably doesn't need to be the absolute top of the line dot, on the other hand, it may well be worth buying a more expensive dot to try as it will retain its resale value if you don't end up keeping it, and if you do, you may not want/need to then spend more to upgrade it. I personally hold Aaron Cowan's (Sage Dynamics) durability tests in high regard, and he has tested many common optics and published a white paper with his findings here:

Miniaturized Red Dot Systems for Duty Handgun Use PDF

It should be noted that his focus was Duty use, so he is very harsh on the optics he's tested, what did not measure to his standards may be perfectly fine for your needs. Note: Very interesting read

Other Notes/Things to consider

The Holosun 407c and 507c are, to the best of my knowledge, the same and built of the same material, the 507c has the Multi Reticle System (2moa dot only, dot and 32moa circle, and circle only) and the 407c has a fixed reticle (2moa dot or 8moa circle only) and the 508t has a Titanium frame and a flat top, which helps protect the glass from impact damage. Trijicon RMRs come in Manual adjust, auto adjust, and self adjusting fiber optic/tritium illuminated optics. The fiber/tritium has been noted to wash out/not adjust properly to certain lighting conditions.

The Vortex Viper Red dot has set screws on the back of the optic to lock its windage and elevation adjustments, necessitating that you either remove your rear sight, or have it drilled with holes to access these screws.

Sage Dynamics also has some excellent videos on you tube about how to sight in and use a Dot on a pistol.

Contribution from Glen M

Here is a list of all the red dots I could find minus the cheap clones that fit the RMR and Docter/Vortex footprints. RMR- Red dot sights that share this footprint: ADE stingray Holosun HS407C Holosun HS507C Holosun HS508T NcStar VISM FlipDot Pro Riton X3 Tactix PRD Swampox Kingslayer Swampfox Liberty RMR Swampfox Justice RMR Trijicon RMR Trijicon SRO Vector Optics Frenzy

Docter/Venom footprint- Red dot sights that share this footprint: Burris Fastfire 2 Burris Fastfire 3 Delta Optical MiniDot Delta Optical MiniDot II Docter/Noblex Sight C Docter/Noblex sight 2+ Docter/Noblex sight III Insight/EOTech MRDS Docter/Noblex QUICKsight 5.0 VR Hawke Reflex Leica Tempus MAKdot Noblex Sight G Sightmark Mini Shot Pro Spec* Sightmark Mini Shot M-Spec Vector Optics Frenzy Vortex Viper Vortex Venom Vomz Pilad

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Holosun H508T - Titanium-housed, multi-reticle, RMR-footprint, 100,000 hour rated, solar- and battery-powered

Holosun seems to have engineered a way around Trijicon's RMR's patented, hood design that absorbs shocks quite well, by instead using a tougher material to accomplish the same goal. The Holosun 508T is just as compact as the Trijicon RMR, yet it provides a significantly bigger and subjectively much clearer view through the glass than the RMR. The window is recessed from the front limits of the housing and this provides protection from frontal impact.

Sight adjustments are the same as the RMR…top and right side. It takes more force to adjust and the adjustments are significantly more positive than the RMR. It was easy to determine when one click adjustment was made. I doubt these screws will move at all under recoil or anything else. When we installed it and then removed and replaced it, zero was retained. Holosun’s literature quotes 100,000 hours of continuous use of the combined circle/dot reticle on the medium brightness using the battery, and 200,000 hours of just the dot reticle on the medium setting. That is like, 11 years!

This is the highest battery life rating of any powered red dot and surpasses the RMR Type 2's 4-year rating. The HE508T has a revolutionary back up system that will eventually become the norm for powered optics. Their "Solar Fail Safe" solar panel on top.

The optic is designed to run on solar power primarily and will transition to battery use as needed. The optic features "Shake Awake" technology. Initially I rolled my eyes at this, but it has not been any sort of problem nor is there any delay in the dot turning on. The system turns off the reticle after a user-set time of no movement. It turns back on instantly with very slight motion. The user can select between 10 minutes, 1 hour, of more of inactivity. The user can also completely disable this feature and ensure their dot only turns off with manual intervention. Also, when the battery is low the reticle will blink, signaling it is time to change the battery.

The "Multiple Reticle System" includes a 32 MOA circle reticle with 2 MOA center dot, and either the circle or the dot can be disabled as desired. The dot alone is best for hyper accurate shooting, but must confess to no loss in accuracy and an increased speed in picking up the reticle visually when the circle and dot are evident. And in addition, the H508T is rated IPX8 for continuous waterproof immersion greater than 1 meter.

My opinion is that this Holosun optic is a great competitor to the Trijicon RMR, and would not hesitate to use it instead of an RMR on a carry weapon.

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Red Dot Comparison, Trijicon RMR / RMRcc, Holosun 507k, Sig Romeo Zero, Shield RMSc


With every passing year, more red dot sights are available on the market. There have never been as many optics manufacturers as there are now, which means that there have never been as many different optical devices as there are now.

Red Dot Sights

Red dot sights have been steadily gaining in popularity – for this reason, they can be found in the offer of most manufacturers of optics around the world. Even companies such as Kahles and Leica, who haven’t manufactured red dot sights before, have recently launched their own versions.

In this article, the most common footprints/mounting standards used on red dot sights are listed. Each standard is described and an image of it is added. At the end of each section, red dot sights that use the footprint discussed are listed.

Docter/Noblex standard

This is one of the most widely used footprints in the field of red dot sights. It has two holes for screws and four sockets in which the pins on the mount/adapter fit, one in each corner. There is a wide range of mounts for this footprint on the market, which is one of the main reasons why it is used by so many manufacturers. Docter/Noblex standard is simple and reliable.

Red dot sights that share this footprint:

* These red dot sights have a Docter/Noblex footprint, but the adapter supplied with them has wider threaded sockets than adapters suited for a Docter/Noblex footprint. Consequently, thicker screws are enclosed. You can mount these red dots on an adapter designed specifically for the Docter/Noblex footprint, but you will need not be able to use the screws supplied with them – thinner screws are needed.

Docter, Noblex footprint
Docter, Noblex footprint
Docter/Noblex sight footprint

Note: distances between holes (sockets) are measured from and to the center of the hole (socket).

Important notes

Meopta Meosight III, Delta Optical MiniDot HD 25, and Meprolight MicroRDS use a footprint that is very similar to the one used by Docter. The four sockets, one in each corner, are in the exact same places. The holes for the screws, however, are not. This is why Meopta Meosight III, Delta Optical MiniDot HD 25, and Meprolight MicroRDS cannot be mounted on every adapter designed for the Docter/Noblex footprint. Several adapters are designed so that both Docter/Noblex footprint sights and Meopta Meosight III/Delta Optical MiniDot HD 25/Meprolight MicroRDS can be mounted on them (see the images below).

Meopta Meosight III (above) and Docter Sight C (below) (source: Christian S.)
Meopta Meosight III (above) and Docter Sight C (below) (source: Christian S.)
An EAW adapter for Docter & Noblex footprint (left) and an adapter for Delta Optical MiniDot HD 25
Noblex Sight III (left) and Delta Optical MiniDot HD 25 (right)
Various adapters for the Docter/Noblex footprint (for different pistols) (source: Christian S.)

Aimpoint Micro standard

Aimpoint is the first company to have used this standard on their Micro small tube sights. Today, other manufacturers of this type of sights use it as well. The surface of the footprint is slightly lifted in the middle – on each side of the lifted section, there are two holes for screws. The lifted section is cut in the middle – this is where the recoil stop fits.

Red dot sights that share this footprint:

Aimpoint Micro footprint
Aimpoint Micro footprint

Note: distances between holes (sockets) are measured from and to the center of the hole (socket).

Important notes

GPO Spectra uses a footprint that is identical to the one used by Aimpoint Micro. Even though it appears to be the same at first sight, there is a protruding part underneath the illumination knob. Because of it, the adapters designed for an Aimpoint Micro footprint do not fit into place at that side (check the picture below). GPO Spectra uses a unique adapter with narrow side sections.

GPO Spectra and its footprint (right) next to Aimpoint Micro H-2 and its footprint (left)
An adapter designed for GPO Spectra's footprint (right) next to the adapter designed for Aimpoint Micro's footprint (left)
An adapter designed for GPO Spectra's footprint
GPO Spectra footprint

Hawke Endurance 1×25 and 1×30 red dot sights also use a footprint slightly different from the Aimpoint Micro one. The lifted section in the middle is wider, thus adapters designed for a Docter/Noblex footprint do not fit in place.

Hawke Endurance 1x30 red dot sight footprint
Hawke Endurance 1x30 does not fit on an EAW adapter designed for a Docter & Noblex footprint

C-more standard

This is a standard found on C-more’s popular red dot sights, RTS and STS. Some other manufacturers also use it because of its simplicity and reliability. The footprint has two holes for screws and two sockets in which the pins on the mount/adapter fit.

Red dot sights that share this footprint:

C-more footprint
C-more footprint

Note: distances between holes (sockets) are measured from and to the center of the hole (socket).

Shield standard

Shield sights are incredibly compact, which is why Shield had to come up with a footprint of their own. It is designed similarly to the Noblex/Docter footprint (there are two holes for the screws and four sockets in which the notches on the mount/adapter fit, one in each corner). The sockets, however, are a little bit wider and closer one to another.

Red dot sights that share this footprint:

Shield footprint
Docter, Noblex footprint (top) and Shield footprint (bottom)
Shield sight footprint

Note: distances between holes (sockets) are measured from and to the center of the hole (socket).

Important notes

Even though Shield RMS and RMSc differ in dimensions (the ‘c’ version is smaller), the distances between the holes are the same, which is why an adapter designed for Shield footprint fits on both.

  • RMSc -(length x width x height) 40 x 23 x 22 mm
  • RMS  – (length x width x height) 42 x 25 x 23 mm

A modification of the Shield standard

Important Notes

Holosun 407K and Holosun 507K feature a modification of the Shield footprint. The differences are:

  • the two rear sockets are missing
  • the sockets in the front are shallower

For this reason, some pistols that are optic ready for Shield footprint need to be modified for the 407 and 507K. Namely, the two rear indexing lugs on the pistol have to be removed and the two front indexing lugs shortened in height. Hellcat and Walther PPS are examples of such pistols (some pistols, such as Sig Sauer P365XL, do not have to be modified).

Holosun 407K and 507K footprint

‘Trijicon RMR’ standard

This footprint has two holes for screws and two sockets in which the pins on the mount/adapter fit – these are in the front, in each corner. Even though the sockets are in the front only, the footprint is somewhat reminiscent of the Docter/Noblex one. Note, however, that the sockets in the corners are farther apart on the Trijicon footprint and bigger in diameter.

Red dot sights that share this footprint:

Trijicon RMR footprint
Trijicon RMR footprint

Note: distances between holes (sockets) are measured from and to the center of the hole (socket).

There are many other, unique footprints on the market. Sig Sauer’s Romeo 1, for example, has a footprint suitable for mounting on certain Sig Sauer pistols – you will need a special adapter if you wish to mount it elsewhere. Steiner uses a different approach for their MRS – there are only two narrow notches in the front, while the holes for the screws are located at the rear of the sight, on both sides, left and right.

‘Trijicon MRO’ standard

There are four screw holes on the footprint, two in the front, two in the rear. The holes on the left are separated from the holes on the right with a lifted section in the middle.

Red dot sights that share this footprint:

Important notes

Burris RT-1X’s footprint is the same as the one on Trijicon MRO, but there is a difference in the supplied screws. RT-1X comes with screws that have bigger heads than the ones supplied with the MRO, which is why you cannot use them to fix an original Trijicon adapter on the Burris red dot. If you wish to mount an original Trijicon adapter on the Burris RT-1X, you have to use the screws supplied with the Trijicon adapter (see the picture below).

A modification of the ‘Trijicon MRO’ footprint

Vector Optics Centurion 1×30 features a modification of the ‘Trijicon MRO’ footprint. The distances between the screw holes are the same, and so is the thread. The difference is in the lifted section. On Centurion, the middle part of the lifted section is cut out to create space for a recoil stop. For this reason, a mount designed for the Trijicon MRO footprint fits on the Centurion, while a mount designed for the Vector Optics Centurion (with a recoil stop) does not fit on the MRO (the middle part of the lifted section is not cut out).

Vector Optics Centurion 1x30 Footprint

Red dot sights that have a unique footprint

Trijicon RMRcc has a footprint without recoil-stopping sockets. There are two holes for screws between the middle and rear section. The size of the footprint is similar to Shield RMS/SMS, Leupold Delta Point Pro, Holosun 407/507K, etc.

Trijicon RMRcc footprint
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Trijicon RMR Footprint

The Trijicon RMR standard has two holes for screws and two sockets for the pins on the mount/adapter that are positioned in the front, in both corners. Regardless of the fact that the sockets are just in the front, the footprint is slightly similar to the Docter/Noblex one. It is important to point out that the sockets in the corners are considerably more separate on the Trijicon footprint and larger in diameter. There are several different footprints that are being sold. One instance is Sig Sauer’s Romeo 1, which has a footprint fitting for mounting on some Sig Sauer pistols. But to mount it somewhere else, a special adapter is needed. Steiner has another method for their MRS, with just two narrow notches in the front, while the holes for the screws are positioned at the rear of the sight, on the left, as well as on the right side.


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