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Heathers Star Barrett Wilbert Weed on Getting Bullied, Getting Bloody & Her Spring Awakening-Style Sex Scene

Barrett Wilbert Weed is relatively new to the New York theater scene, but when she makes her first entrance in Heathers: The Musical at off-Broadway’s New World Stages, she’s met with deafening cheers and applause. That’s because the Lysistrata Jones and Bare alum is tackling the iconic role of Veronica Sawyer, made famous by Winona Ryder in the cult ‘80s film of the same name. In the new musical adaptation, Weed is tortured by bullies, welcomed (kinda) into the treacherous in-crowd with Heather, Heather and Heather, controlled by her intense boyfriend J.D. and nearly blown up, all while belting an infectious score by Laurence O’Keefe and Kevin Murphy. Below, Weed tells about taking a chance to star in the new musical, what it’s like to have “half-clothed, kind-of-believable sex” in front of a screaming crowd and her own high school fantasies of offing the popular kids.

When did you first hear about Heathers: The Musical?
My roommate-slash-best-friend Jared Loftin and I were both bored and unemployed and we were watching Netflix and he said, “Have you ever seen Heathers?” And I was like, “No, but I’ve heard about it, so let’s do it right now.” We watched the movie and he said, “Did you know this is going to be a musical?” And I was like, “Allll right! Game on!” I completely threw myself into the auditions and it all happened really quickly. They cast everything within a couple of weeks and then it was like, “Move to L.A.!”

You just dropped everything and moved to L.A. on the spot?
Yeah, we had to move to L.A. on our own dime and be a local hire. A lot of people weren’t willing to do that, and I thought everyone was crazy. There was no housing, they didn’t put us up. But I was like, “What are you talking about? This is going to be incredible. Have you heard any of the music?” It’s the best score that’s been written for a musical comedy in I don’t know how long. From the comedy to the inappropriateness of some songs to the beauty of others… How can you say no to that?

What is it about the movie that hooked you?
Oh my God, it’s so amazing. It wasn’t a commercial success when it first came out, but I think it’s become so popular because it resonates with so many people. It’s how I felt growing up. I was brutalized for my entire childhood. At this point, there's more than half of my life that I would love to not remember.

Really? That’s horrible!
Yeah. I’ve always been silly and loud, and in my memory I’ve been 5’9” since I was 11. People beelined right for me. It was awful for a really long time. So I definitely had elaborate murder fantasies growing up. After that movie, I was like, "Yeah, that’s how it felt, that’s how it is." It was awful.

Damn, maybe it’s a good thing you didn’t see the movie earlier!
I know! [Laughs.]

Are the audiences in New York just as rowdy as in California?
Most of our performances are just people screaming their faces off, and that’s a lot of what it was in L.A. People just waiting for their favorite lines and then jumping all over them. Even new stuff—the sex scene gets ridiculous applause. There were so many nights in L.A. where Ryan McCartan [who plays J.D.] and I almost broke because it was so preposterous. We’re kissing and taking each other’s clothes off and people are like, “YEAAHHH!” [Laughs.]

They’ve been waiting—they haven’t seen a teen sex scene this intense since Spring Awakening.
It’s another girl having half-clothed, kind-of believable sex! It’s nice to be applauded when you take your clothes off.

It’s very affirming.
Yes, although something bizarre happened last night. We just got my blazer back from the cleaners and there must have been a pin stuck in the sleeve. It stuck my wrist and a couple fingers and cut the sh*t out of me. I was bleeding profusely all over poor Ryan during our sex scene! There was blood all over his torso. During the blackout I whispered in his ear, “I’m really sorry! I cut myself and just bled all over you.” And he was like, “Just wipe it on my jeans or something, they’re black.” Then I had to hold my hand in an awkward fist for the next two scenes because I couldn’t get offstage. 

Oh no! Are you OK now?
Yeah, now it looks like I got in a really bad fight with a cat. That’s the nature of previews; it’s like Russian roulette. We’re still working out the kinks, so something crazy is going to happen every single night.

I heard Winona Ryder saw the show in L.A., did you get to meet her?
Yeah, she came to closing night, as did Billy Crystal and a bunch of absurdly famous people. They all sat right next to each other during the performance and we were all like, “OK, if you’re gonna come and like, be a celebrity, you can’t all sit next to each other so we can see you. You have to go hide in the back.” [Laughs.] Winona was great, and she stayed for the party afterwards and we got to talk for a really long time. We both cried a little bit! She’s just so lovely, she’s like a magical woodland fairy.

See Barrett Wilbert Weed in Heathers, opening March 31 at New World Stages.

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Once you transform into a popular girl, your costume comes with a seriously teeny cheerleader skirt. Any tips for minimizing flashes?

That skirt is actually made of elastic. It doesn't move; it's totally stiff. And to be honest, I'd never had such a "pretty girl" costume before, and I've never worn a skirt like that in real life! During costume fittings, I was pretty nervous. I said, "Uh, this skirt is really short, guys!" And the costume designers were like, "No Barrett, that's how it's supposed to be. It looks great!"

Can we assume you never violated any dress code rules in high school?

You would be correct. I was very prone to hiding my body and face under layers of clothing. Lots of dark, drapy things, and lots of big, cozy knits. I was always in huge sweaters! Did you wear short skirts in high school? You did, didn't you? Listen, I wish I'd had the guts to do that back then. I say, if you have the confidence to wear a miniskirt, you should do it all the time!

Your Heathers co-star is Ryan McCartan, the heartthrob on Disney Channel's Liv and Maddie. Do you get hate tweets from his fans being like, "Stop kissing my boyfriend"?

No, but sometimes there are screaming girls in the audience and when he comes out for the first time, they go crazy. Actually, when we were first starting rehearsals, his show hadn't aired yet. Then all of a sudden, about a month into rehearsals, it became the biggest deal! But I love Ryan so much, and I'm so happy for him. It's kind of funny to say, "I'm so glad millions of girls have crushes on him!" But he's creating such a lovely character for so many girls. And I remember how important TV shows like Lizzie Maguire were to me—that show made things better for me. It made my life happier. And it's no chore having to kiss Ryan onstage every night.

It doesn't seem like it.

Ryan McCartan is super pretty. The first day we had our costumes on, I was like, "Yeah, I can work with this! You look awesome!" I don't think very many people can pull off the early '90s angsty grunge boy vibe, but he just rocks it.

You and Ryan have a serious make-out scene in the show. Can you spill your best advice on stage-kissing?

I think it's important to be friends with the person you have to kiss onstage in front of a hundred people. You might not be friends in real life—especially if you're in high school—but you need to at least be "secret friends" for it to work. Try to be comfortable with each other.

What about technique?

First, relax your face. Then take a deep breath, look at the person you're supposed to kiss, and aim for the mouth. But luckily, you're the girl, so you kind of get kissed, and the dude has to do all the work! Just give them a good target and don't move so much. That's terrible advice for a real life kiss, by the way, but for a stage kiss, that's the best way... and remember, usually in the theater it's a no-tongue zone!

Do you have advice for theater students who don't get the parts they want?

Oh, for sure! Listen, I have never ever been the lead in a musical until this show! But just being in a show is such an amazing learning experience, you make such great friends, you get to be a part of something bigger than you—it's a privilege to be in a show, you know? And if you don't get a part at all, just try out for the next one.

Heathers is a musical based on a movie, and it's really good. But in your opinion, what movie should never be made into a musical?

Oh gosh. There are good musicals that came from movies, like Shrek and Legally Blonde! But, um...they should never mess with The Hunger Games. Can you imagine? Ridiculous! But I'll bet you anything that someone in New York is sitting around going, "You know what's a great idea? Katniss, the Musical!" And it's just like, no. That should never, ever happen.

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Barrett Wilbert Weed

American actress

Barrett Wilbert Weed (born November 6, 1988) is an American actress and singer. She is best known for originating the roles of Veronica Sawyer in the Off-Broadway production of Heathers: The Musical and Janis Sarkisian in the Broadway production of Mean Girls.

Early life and education[edit]

Weed grew up in Cambridge, Massachusetts. At age five, she began performing with the Boston Children's Opera.[1] Her father died from cancer when she was seven years old.[2] Growing up, she attended Long Lake Camp for the Arts in Long Lake, New York.

She attended the Walnut Hill School for most of high school after transferring from a private preparatory school. In an interview, Weed said of the school, "It's an amazing place — like Hogwarts. Walnut Hill saved my life." She credits the staff and standards of Walnut Hill for much of her later success.[3]

She graduated from Elon University with a BFA in musical theatre in 2011.[4]

On April 13, 2019, Weed was awarded a 2019 Top 10 Under 10 Alumni Award from Elon University, an award given annually which "recognizes 10 alumni who have graduated between 2018 and 2009 and who have achieved major professional success, serve as difference-makers in their communities and loyally support Elon."[5]

Weed is the niece of actress Kathi Moss, who originated the role of Saraghina in 1982 Broadway production of Nine and also appeared in original Broadway productions of Grease and Grand Hotel.[6][7]


Weed made her Broadway debut in Lysistrata Jones in November 2011, as an understudy for many of the female roles. The show closed on January 8, 2012.[8]

Her next major role was Nadia in a reworked version of Bare: A Pop Opera, now called Bare: The Musical, at New World Stages. Previews began on November 19, 2012, with an official opening on December 9, 2012, and the show ran through February 3, 2013.[9]

She then played Zoe Murphy in Dear Evan Hansen for the May Reading in 2014.

Weed then originated the leading role of Veronica in Heathers: The Musical, a musical adaptation of the 1988 cult film Heathers. The musical premiered at Hudson Backstage Theatre in Los Angeles in the fall of 2013, before moving to New York for its Off-Broadway incarnation. The show began previews at New World Stages on March 15, 2014, with an opening night of March 31. She was nominated for a Lucille Lortel Award and a Drama Desk Award for her performance. Weed left the show in June, and the show closed on August 4, 2014.[10]

In September 2014, Weed began performing in FOUND The Musical, a new Off-Broadway musical about the creation of the Found books and magazines by Davy Rothbart. Weed played the role of Denise. The show opened on October 14 and ran through November 9, 2014.[11]

Weed played the role of Sally Bowles in the Signature Theatre production of Cabaret from May 12 to June 28, 2015, in the Washington, D.C. area.[12] For this performance, she won the Helen Hayes Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Musical.[13]

Weed narrates "Kill The Boy Band" by Goldy Moldavsky on and Audio CD's, which was audio released on March 1, 2016.[14]

Weed starred in the new musical Mean Girls as Janis Sarkisian on Broadway. She was part of the world premiere which started on October 31, 2017, and ended December 3, 2017, at the National Theatre. The musical, based on the film of the same name began previews on Broadway on March 12, 2018, and officially opened April 8, 2018.[15] Weed has stated she identifies strongly with the 'outspoken cynicism' of her character.[2] Co-star Grey Henson and Weed worked together to receive their roles in the production.[16] Her final performance in the role was March 8, 2020.[17]

When she is not acting, Weed enjoys teaching voice and acting lessons to teenagers, as well as teaching master classes at high schools.[18]

On December 2, 2020, it was announced that Weed joined the cast of Bridge and Tunnel, a tv show on Epix. She plays Lizzie, "the artsy, sarcastic older sister of Pags (Brian Muller), who dreams of rock stardom for her all-girl punk band, Wildfire".[19] The show aired on Sunday, January 24, 2021.


Weed is typically classified as a mezzo-soprano, and is widely known for her high belting.[20][21]

Personal life[edit]

Weed is an advocate for a number of causes, including female empowerment, gun control, and voting rights.[22][23]




Theatre credits[edit]

Awards and nominations[edit]


  1. ^Feldberg, Isaac (April 9, 2018). "From Cambridge to Broadway, Barrett Wilbert Weed's path to 'Mean Girls'". The Boston Globe. Boston Globe Media Partners. Retrieved June 20, 2019.
  2. ^ abWong, Curtis M. (June 10, 2018). "'Mean Girls' Star Barrett Wilbert Weed Is Proud To Be A Broadway Anti-Heroine". HuffPost. Oath. Retrieved June 20, 2019.
  3. ^Correspondent, R. Scott Reedy. "Barrett Wilbert Weed makes friends with Broadway's 'Mean Girls'". The Patriot Ledger, Quincy, MA. Retrieved June 24, 2019.
  4. ^Krentcil, Faran (April 23, 2014). "'Heathers' Star Barrett Wilbert Weed Talks About Kissing Disney Heartthrobs and Wearing Short Skirts Onstage". Teen Vogue. Retrieved January 16, 2016.
  5. ^"Young alumni recognized with Elon's Top 10 Under 10 Awards". E-Net! Elon University News & Information. Retrieved June 20, 2019.
  6. ^"Watch Mean Girls star Barrett Wilbert Weed perform her Broadway dream roles". October 2, 2018. Retrieved October 3, 2018 – via YouTube.
  7. ^"Kathi Moss – Broadway Cast & Staff". Internet Broadway Database. Retrieved October 3, 2018.
  8. ^Jones, Kenneth (January 3, 2012). "Lysistrata Jones, the Broadway Musical That Borrows from Ancient Greece, Will Give It Up on Jan. 8". Playbill. Retrieved January 8, 2015.
  9. ^Rooney, David (December 11, 2012). "Ill-Fated Gay Love and Hormonal Tempests on a School Stage". The New York Times. Retrieved January 8, 2015.
  10. ^Stasio, Marilyn (March 31, 2014). "Off Broadway Review: 'Heathers' the Musical". Variety. Variety Media. Retrieved January 8, 2015.
  11. ^Gordon, David (August 8, 2014). "Community Star Danny Pudi and More Cast in New Musical Found". Theatre Mania. Retrieved January 8, 2015.
  12. ^Blanchard, Jayne (May 18, 2015). "A smashing, trashy Cabaret at Signature (review)". DC Theatre Scene. Retrieved January 8, 2015.
  13. ^Clement, Olivia (May 24, 2016). "Dear Evan Hansen Wins at Helen Hayes Awards". Playbill. Retrieved June 26, 2016.
  14. ^"KILL THE BOY BAND by Goldy Moldavsky Read by Barrett Wilbert Weed | Audiobook Review". AudioFile. 2016. Retrieved June 11, 2018.
  15. ^McPhee, Ryan (July 27, 2017). "Mean Girls Musical Finds Its Plastics in Taylor Louderman and Ashley Park; Additional Casting Announced". Playbill. Retrieved July 30, 2017.
  16. ^Stagnitta, Ali (April 16, 2018). "'Mean Girls' Barrett Wilbert Weed Talks On & Off-Stage Friendship With Her Damian, Grey Henson". Hollywood Life. Retrieved June 24, 2019.
  17. ^"Olivia Kaufmann Will Graduate to the Role of Janis Sarkisian in Mean Girls". Retrieved February 6, 2020.
  18. ^Bell, Crystal. "Mean Girls The Musical's Barrett Wilbert Weed Is Channeling Her Middle School Anxiety". MTV News. Retrieved June 25, 2019.
  19. ^ abPetski, Denise (December 2, 2020). "'Bridge And Tunnel' Casts Barrett Wilbert Weed; Rushi Kota Returns To 'Never Have I Ever'". Deadline. Retrieved December 4, 2020.
  20. ^"Barrett Wilbert Weed at Feinstein's". September 4, 2015.
  21. ^Gioia, Michael (July 11, 2014). "What's Your Damage? A Track-by-Track Breakdown of the Heathers: The Musical Cast Album". Playbill.
  22. ^"From Cambridge to Broadway, Barrett Wilbert Weed's path to 'Mean Girls' - The Boston Globe". Retrieved June 20, 2019.
  23. ^Stagnitta, Ali (September 11, 2018). "'Mean Girls' Barrett Wilbert Weed Urges You To Vote In The Midterms To 'Preserve The Safety Of The People'". Hollywood Life. Retrieved June 20, 2019.
  24. ^"Mean Girls - SNL". May 19, 2018 – via YouTube.
  25. ^""The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon" Tina Fey/Evan Rachel Wood/Mean Girls (TV Episode 2018)". IMDb.
  26. ^""Crashing" MC, Middle, Headliner (TV Episode 2019)". IMDb.
  27. ^"Blue Bloods "Hide in Plain Sight" Photos: Stacy Keach Guest Stars". KSiteTV. April 17, 2020.
  28. ^Helluva Boss (TV Series 2019– ) - IMDb, retrieved December 11, 2020
  29. ^"The Cast – Swipe Monster". Retrieved September 12, 2021.
  30. ^Swipe Monster (TV Mini Series 2021– ) - IMDb, retrieved September 12, 2021
  31. ^"Mean Girls Leads Audience Choice Award Winners; Ethan Slater, Hailey Kilgore Also Take Top Prizes". May 17, 2018. Retrieved May 17, 2018.

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Barrett Wilbert Weed

American actress and singer Barrett Wilbert Weed is best known for originating the role of Janis Sarkisian in the Broadway production of Mean Girls, and the role of Veronica Sawyer in the off-Broadway production of Heathers: The Musical.

Growing up in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Weed began performing with the Boston Children’s Opera at only five years old. After graduating with a BFA in musical theatre in 2011, she made her Broadway Debut in Lysistrata Jones that same year, stepping in as an understudy for several female roles. Weed then appeared in Bare: The Musical and Dear Evan Hansen before landing her breakout role in Heathers: The Musical, an adaptation of the cult 1998 film Heathers. She originated the leading role of Veronica, earning nominations for a Lucille Lortel Award and a Drama Desk Award.

Since then, Weed has been seen in FOUND The Musical and Cabaret, picking up a Helen Hayes Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Musical for her performance in the latter. 2018 saw the actress land her most notable role to date, starring in the musical adaptation of Mean Girls on Broadway as Janis Sarkisian. Receiving widespread acclaim for her performance, she was a central member of the cast for almost two years. When not on stage, Weed teaches voice and acting lessons and advocates for causes such as voting rights and female empowerment. She has also made appearances on television, appearing in HBO’s Crashing and the police drama Blue Bloods.

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‘Bridge And Tunnel’ Casts Barrett Wilbert Weed; Rushi Kota Returns To ‘Never Have I Ever’

EXCLUSIVE: Barrett Wilbert Weed (Mean Girls on Broadway) is set for a recurring role in Bridge and Tunnel, Epix’s upcoming half-hour dramedy written, directed and produced by Edward Burns. Set in 1980, Bridge and Tunnel revolves around a group of recent college grads setting out to pursue their dreams in Manhattan while still clinging to the familiarity of their working-class Long Island home town. Weed will play Lizzie, the artsy, sarcastic older sister of Pags (Brian Muller), who dreams of rock stardom for her all-girl punk band, Wildfire. She joins an ensemble cast that includes Sam Vartholomeos, Caitlin Stasey, Gigi Zumbado, JanLuis Castellanos, Brian Muller and Isabella Farrell. In addition to Burns, the series is also executive produced by his producing partner Aaron Lubin and Lori Keith Douglas. Weed recently starred as Janis Sarkisian in Tina Fey’s Broadway musical Mean Girls, based on the movie. She originated the role of Veronica Sawyer in Heathers: The Musical at the Hudson Backstage Theatre in Hollywood and at New World Stages Off-Broadway. Her portrayal of Sally Bowles in Cabaret at D.C.’s Signature Theatre, garnered her a Helen Hayes Award. On television, she can be seen in CBS’ Blue Bloods and on HBO’s Crashing. Weed is repped by CESD and Jeremy Katz of The Katz Company.

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Barrett Wilbert Weed on Her Memorable ‘Mean Girls’ and ‘Heathers’ Stage Roles, Dream Gig

Barrett Wilbert Weed, who is currently belting out “I’d Rather Be Me” eight shows a week as Janis Sarkisian in Broadway smash “Mean Girls,” lovingly adapted from Tina Fey’s hit comedy that introduced the world to “fetch” and “grool,” is no stranger to the theater scene.

After attending a self-described arts version of “Hogwarts” and performing in productions like “Rent” while studying at Elon University, Weed went on to originate heroic roles like Veronica Sawyer in the Off-Broadway run of “Heathers: The Musical” and now planning “revenge parties” as Janis at the August Wilson Theatre. You might have seen her recently singing on “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon,” garnering a standing ovation by the end of the number.

On her day off, Weed, a Helen Hayes Award winner, talked with Variety about her pride in delivering such an empowering message every night, her dream of playing Elphaba in “Wicked,” and her ease in tapping into young adult characters.

Did you go to any shows as a kid? Or have any roles you really wanted to play?
Not really. I didn’t really see myself represented. There have only been a few actresses over any of the acting mediums where I’ve thought: “Oh, she’s kind of like me.” I remember when I saw the movie of “Cabaret” I was amazed by Liza Minnelli, like: “Wow, that kind of looks like someone I could be similar to.”

Speaking of Liza Minnelli, you played Sally Bowles in “Cabaret.What was that like?
I say all the time that’s my most favorite job I’ve ever had. I was unemployed, and I was in LA at my friend’s house when I got a call from my agents. I think the Sally role is one of the best, most expansive roles written for a woman and it was so before its time. It’s so fun to play a person who’s like 10 different people. She doesn’t even know who she is. She just knows that there’s a lot in her that needs to get out. She just knows that there’s a lot in her that needs to get out.

How did you come to originate the role of Veronica Sawyer in “Heathers: The Musical?”
I was living with my friend Jared Loftin, who’s still one of my best friends. He asked me if I’d ever watched “Heathers.” I hadn’t, so we just sat down and watched the movie. And I thought: “This is the best, weirdest thing I’ve seen in a long time.” And Jared said: “I think they’re making this into a musical.” And I was like: “What? I’m doing that.” So, he told my reps about it. And I said: “I don’t care if this is happening in a garage. I want to be part of that.” Then the breakdowns came out and I got my appointment. I had to make like 1,000 self-tapes because they were casting out of LA and the only in-person audition I ever had for that show was with [composer/lyricist/librettist] Larry O’Keefe for maybe two minutes. They were running really behind. It was this show that nobody really wanted to do. We weren’t really paid for anything and you had to relocate yourself. But I was like: “I get that everybody wants to be paid. But I’m 24 and I don’t have any credits, so I’m just gonna do this and make something out of it.”

It feels like “Heathers” and “Mean Girls” are cut from the same cloth in terms of being satirical and set around young adults in high school trying to topple the “apex predators,” if you will. You’ve often inhabited the world of high school characters not just in these two shows, but also in “Bare” and then college-age in “Lysistrata Jones.” What about portraying the young adult experience resonates with you?
I think when you’re an actor, it kind of enables you to fully inhabit all of the youngest parts of yourself. Because no one’s really expecting you to grow up in that traditional way. So, I think it’s an easily accessible time in my life. I also think I went through so much–I’m hesitant to use the word “trauma” because there are people out there who have gone through, you know, real trauma. But my experience growing up really stuck with me and continues to stick with me just because it was an incredibly tumultuous time. And then it turned into an incredibly awesome time once I finally found my arts high school. Then, it felt like: “Okay, here are all the people that I’ve been looking for for a long time. And here are all the teachers I’ve been looking for. And here’s this sense of independence because we were all living at school.”

It was a boarding school?
Yeah, it was Walnut Hills School for the Arts. It’s a boarding school where you have a major and it’s very, very structured and very serious. It’s a lot like Hogwarts. That’s really the only thing I’ve ever found to compare it to. The level of intensity and drama and passion that exists at that school is truly unparalleled. My father passed away when I was pretty young. I was 7-years-old, and I think when that happens, there are a variety of ways that a young person can react to that loss. I think for me, it kind of put me in a perpetual state of feeling like something is wrong with me and like I didn’t belong or everybody else had things that I didn’t have. I think that’s a very easy feeling for me to access as an actor. That’s not how I feel in my adult life. I’ve taken care of my brain and my heart and I have a very dedicated therapist who is wonderful. I don’t mind talking about it because I think we should all be in therapy. We all deserve that kind of support. But I do think it’s really important to have an adult perspective when you’re playing high school characters.

That adult perspective is particularly helpful for a song like “I’d Rather Be Me.”
I think my life would have been so much easier if I’d had a friend like Janis or had been able to be a little more Janis-esque. Because it’s really hard to put your own emotional well-being and your own heart above friendships. I still feel that. As an adult, you want to connect with people and you want to feel accepted. And you have to check yourself and be like: “Okay, but is this person actually giving me anything back or are they for whatever reason and whatever they’re going through just not investing in me as a person?” That’s a really valuable thing, especially for girls to just even be introduced to the concept that it’s so much more important to find happiness and peace in yourself than to try to find it from the validation you may or may not receive from the world around you. Being your own best friend was a new thought process for me as little as five years ago. That’s a really important message to give to people, and I’m so glad that I get to deliver that message. It’s really cool when I get letters because I get letters from a lot of kids.

After you performed on “Jimmy Fallon,” did you get even more letters since it was such a wide audience of people that got to hear you sing the song?
I didn’t realize that every single person that I ever met in my entire life watches that show. Four of my friends got to come to the taping, which was the best thing ever. There’s really not time to enjoy it until right at the end as you’re like: “Okay, I didn’t fall down on national television. I did okay.” But when your friends are there you get to enjoy it and experience it through them. But I didn’t understand how big of a deal that was going to be. I’m super grateful. That’s why I get to wear some cool clothes now–because I have Instagram followers.

Especially your wardrobe as Janis.
It’s insane. The first fitting I ever had for that show, I was like: “Are you guys serious? These are the best costumes I’ve ever had.” And I was also very prepared to have a really gross wig. When Lizzy Caplan [who played Janis in the movie] came to see the show, we were talking about it. She was like: “How did you get such good hair? I’m way jealous.” I was like: “I was prepared. I was ready to have an exact replica of your hair in the movie.” And I did not. It’s really nice that they allowed Janis to be incredibly stylish definitely in an off-kilter kind of way. I’m so glad that she looks good and clearly likes how she looks. Because being “pretty” or “attractive” or whatever, it doesn’t guarantee happiness at all

As you said, you want to look at more adult roles and you performed on TV for the first time on “Fallon.” Would you want to do something outside of theater like film, TV, or maybe even a movie musical in the future?
Yeah, if the people who are in charge of the “Wicked” movie–looking at you, Marc Platt–would want to cast me as Elphaba, I would obviously give all of my internal organs to do that.

To fly in the air and sing “Defying Gravity.”
Oh, my God, yeah. Elphaba is really a role, whether in theater or in the movie, that I’m dying to do. It’s such an awesome part. I think anywhere where there’s a role for a female hero to play, that’s what I’m interested in. Because I’ve often been asked: “What do all these roles have in common? What are the roles that you’re interested in playing?” And I want to play heroes. I think that’s what we need to see from women. I would enjoy playing villains, too, but I don’t think we need to see more female villains right now. I think we need to see more female heroes because they exist all the time every day in my life, and I think it would be fun to keep seeing more and more of them. I also think playing a straight-up Marvel superhero would be so awesome.

Someone like Jessica Jones, perhaps?
Oh yeah, I would die to be on that show. It’s so awesome. That show and “The Handmaid’s Tale” and anything that Amy Sherman-Palladino writes. Any of that material that’s all led by women and is great to watch.

What are your plans for the Tonys on Sunday?
We have a dress rehearsal for the Tonys in the morning at Radio City. Then, we go home for two hours, come back to the theater, and do a matinee. After the matinee, we’ll find out what time we’re performing at the Tonys. And then we’re having a party across the street at our new favorite bar that just opened after we all get back from performing on the Tonys. I think we’ll watch for a little while and see if we win anything. Then, we’ll just eat, dance, and drink.

“Mean Girls” earned 12 Tony nominations this year and plays eight shows a week on Broadway at the August Wilson Theatre.

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